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RayMurphy
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2003-02-13          49218

I have a JD4210 with a 420 loader. I've obtained some 3/8 weldable grab hooks to mount to my loader. The hooks are 2-1/2 inches long and I have some 1/4x3x6 plate that I intend to use as backers when I weld them on my FEL. Any thoughts as to how well this will work as a backing plate> Are these too small?

Ray Murphy
Bandon, OR


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jyoutz
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2003-02-13          49219

What I did was weld my hooks to a piece of 1/4" thick 3"x3" angle iron. The angle iron was the full length of my bucket lip. Then I drilled the iron and bucket lip and mounted to the top of my bucket lip, using a flat piece of 1/4" iron on the underside of my bucket lip. This accomplished 2 things: strengthen bucket lip, and allow hooks to be removed if not needed. It's also cheap and easy to do, and looks good. ....

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DRankin
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2003-02-14          49234

Ray, If I am reading the description correctly, it sounds like you plan to put a separate plate under each hook.

That will work fine but you still might get a little localized warping.

A length of plate or channel that spans the entire width of the FEL bucket would be just a bit stronger. ....

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Peters
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2003-02-14          49257

I had a 1/4" x 1 1/4" steel plate welded along the top edge of the bucket(4ft). Just above the plate I had the grab hooks welded. I placed the hooks in line with the bucket pins.
I could lift as much as the loder would carry with this arrangement and never had any problem. This is the standard method I had seen with excavation contractors on larger machines. Although where I grew up most or all welding of this type was done by one family.
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bullworker
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2003-02-14          49264

you should put a single hook in the center of the bucket to minimize the chance of off center loading. how you mount it depends on the bucket design and how you intend to use it. a 6x4 plate welded to the top of the bucket and the hook welded to that will handle most chores around the homestead.a landscaper or farmer may need the top of the bucket reinforced with a channel or peice of tube steel to keep the integrity of the bucket. ....

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Peters
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2003-02-14          49271

I like the 2 hooks at the pin locations as there is less chance of bending as the back of the bucket is reinforce at these points.
If I am doing a single sling then I run the chain through the 2 hooks and then connect the hook to the chain in the center.
The dual hook are useful for strapping larger material into the bucket when lifting. A single hook is not much use for this.
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TomG
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2003-02-15          49283

I've mentioned it before, but I don't do much heavy lifting with the loader since I got my 3ph forklift. Before the forklift I occasionally used to take one grab-hook off a chain and poke the chain through the pipe between the loader arms. Then I'd put the hook back on and hook on to the chain coming out the other side for a sling. That way all load is off the bucket. The load also is closer to the tractor so there's less ballasting to do. Of course, the load is closer to the tractor and can't be lifted as high without bashing the rad. This is of course much less convenient than hooks on a reinforced bucket, but it works in a pinch. ....

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